Alan Newman says his 23 percent of Seventh Generation paid him about $200,000 before its $700 million Unilever sale
The How I Built This replay turns an eco-brand origin story into a very expensive co-founder breakup.
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The most expensive bathroom tissue in this story is not the scratchy recycled stuff. It is the 23 percent of Seventh Generation that Alan Newman says he sold for something like $200,000, years before Unilever bought the company for a reported $600 million to $700 million.
That number is why this replay of How I Built This still has teeth. It is not just a tale of two idealists making brown toilet paper palatable to America. It is a co-founder divorce with a liquidation event hiding in the bushes, wearing an Axe Body Spray hoodie because, yes, Unilever.
If you really want to solve this problem, you need to buy me out. And that’s when I got paid out.
Raz then says Newman sold his 23 percent for “like 200,000 bucks,” and Newman answers, “Something like that.” Napkin math makes that stake look obscene later, roughly $138 million to $161 million against the reported Unilever price. Real life is meaner than napkin math. The company would have raised more money, diluted shareholders, changed terms, changed boards, changed everything. Still, even with every caveat piled on like compost, it is a nasty little number.
The Dear John letter had a balance sheet
Newman and Jeffrey Hollender were not a natural pair. Newman was the Vermont catalog operator who says yes before his brain can stop him. Hollender was the New York fundraiser with investor credibility and a redemption arc after running classes like “How to Marry Money.” Together they turned an inherited environmental catalog into a company selling recycled paper products, cleaning supplies, and the fantasy that consumer guilt could be lightly deodorized.
Then the business hit the wall. The recession, the Gulf War, and the fading glow of Earth Day enthusiasm took daily orders from more than a thousand to fewer than a hundred, according to Newman. Layoffs followed. Newman took what he saw as a needed sabbatical. Hollender experienced it as desertion.
And the fact that my friend threw me out and stole my baby without even a fucking discussion. You know, I was ripshit.
The episode’s best business lesson is not “choose a co-founder with complementary skills,” though sure, put that on a mug. It is uglier: the person who handles the board usually holds the knife. Newman admits later that he let Hollender manage the investors because they were Hollender’s investors. Hollender, years later, says he learned the same lesson when Seventh Generation’s board pushed him out too.
Green business, less green than advertised
The other surprise is that Hollender is not selling the full halo. Asked whether brands like Seventh Generation let consumers buy stuff while feeling virtuous, he basically says yes. That is a rare bit of honesty in sustainable business, a field where every bottle wants to introduce itself as a moral philosopher.
being less bad is not being good
This also creates a neat contradiction with the Method comparison Raz raises. Method, he says, found that consumers did not respond as strongly to plant-based virtue claims, so it sold design and effectiveness. Hollender says Seventh Generation led with health and safety first, environment second, performance third. Same aisle, different sermon.
Newman’s post-Seventh Generation life makes the lost-stake story even stranger. He goes on to co-found Magic Hat, decides the brewery should behave less like a beer company than a music-adjacent cool machine, and lands another iconic Vermont brand. This is not a man who simply missed his one shot. It is a man who kept finding doors, sometimes by walking into them face-first.
But if you are listening with a business plan open and a friend across the table, the actionable part is painfully small. Write down what happens when someone leaves. Write down who controls the board relationship. Write down whether you want a partner or just want someone to admire you while you steer.
if you’re not prepared to do the work, you shouldn’t get into the relationship.
- How much did Alan Newman get for his Seventh Generation stake?
- Guy Raz put the number at about $200,000 for Newman's 23 percent stake, and Newman did not dispute it, answering, “Something like that.” The brutal part is the timing: Seventh Generation later sold to Unilever for a reported $600 million to $700 million.
- Why did Alan Newman leave Seventh Generation?
- Newman took a sabbatical after the business crashed from its early growth surge, expecting to return with new ideas. Hollender says he felt abandoned during a crisis, and Newman later received what he calls a “Dear John” letter telling him he was out.
- Did Jeffrey Hollender think Seventh Generation products were actually good for the planet?
- Hollender makes a sharper admission than most green-brand founders do: many products were less harmful, not truly good. He says disposable diapers and paper products still created waste and pollution, just less than conventional alternatives.
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