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Gretchen Rossi Is Back on RHOC and She Has Notes

The Orange County original returns to Bravo with more grace than the show deserves, and a very clear memory of everything that happened.

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Gretchen Rossi said no three times. To the producers, to the cameras, to the whole circus of it. Then she said yes, and now she’s back on Real Housewives of Orange County, which either proves she has grown into someone who can compartmentalize a Bravo contract, or proves the show has a gravitational pull that resists even the most sincere objections. Probably both.

What makes this conversation worth your time is not the reunion-preview drama or the cast list housekeeping. It’s the way Rossi talks about her first years on the show, before she’d figured out the rules, when she was simultaneously nursing a dying fiance and getting called a gold digger on international television. She was in her late twenties, she’d sold Jeff his house as his real estate agent, she’d decorated it, and somewhere in there he fell for her. She describes it with this very specific detail: he told her he could tell she wasn’t impressed by his money. She could take care of herself. She was, she notes, in the top seven percent internationally for Coldwell Banker. The receipts were always there. The show just didn’t air them.

I don’t think I realized how much it would change the trajectory of my life and in the sense of what that undertaking looked like because becoming someone’s full-time caretaker at such a young age. It definitely takes a toll on your mental health, your physical health, your emotional health.

Gretchen Rossi, on the episode 11:57

The Thing About the Past

Here is Rossi’s actual argument, stripped of the diplomatic softening she wraps it in: she is being told by a castmate to stop living in the past, and that castmate is in therapy processing her own past trauma. She delivers this point with the precision of someone who has been rehearsing it in the car. She’s not wrong. It is also, purely as television, a great bit.

The person that’s talking the most about don’t go in the past is actually going to therapy to discuss her past and the trauma that she has from her past. So it’s to me it’s like why am I not allowed to discuss the past or bring anything up about that? But you are. It just that feels weird to me. It feels a little hypocritical.

Gretchen Rossi, on the episode 25:19

She’s also got a fully developed theory about Slade Smiley’s presence on the show, which she defends with the energy of someone who has fielded this question many times and is tired of the premise. The argument: you cannot bring a man’s name into a storyline, run around a party spreading gossip about him, and then act aggrieved when he shows up to address it. This is, again, not wrong. It is also the kind of argument that sounds very sensible in an interview and absolutely volcanic on a Bravo reunion stage.

What She Actually Misses

The most unguarded moment is about Jeff. Not the cancer, not the diagnosis, though she gives the date with the precision of someone who will never forget it, December 18th, walking into the doctor’s office. It’s the Indy 500 story. They went back to Indianapolis because Jeff had designed pace cars for the race, and she describes watching him on that track, sick, and feeling his energy change completely. She doesn’t call it sad.

When he was there on that track it just you you could feel his spirit come alive and so that for me actually was a very special moment to be there with him knowing that he was sick and knowing that he still got to enjoy these things that that made him so happy.

Gretchen Rossi, on the episode 14:16

She also talks about the Oprah makeover segment, which was actually a make-under, as in the show tried to dress down the glamorous Housewives and Rossi, as the new girl, got the worst look. She was not subtle about her feelings at the time. She is gracious about it now. Both things are very her.

Rossi’s whole deal, and you can see it across the episode, is that she came into reality television thinking it was about women supporting women and champagne and shopping, found out it was not that at all, left, built an actual life, and has now returned old enough to know exactly what she signed up for. Whether that self-awareness makes for better television than naive optimism is the show’s problem to solve. She’s done her part.

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